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Online Isabelle Prondzynski

Re: QE2 Model--Help please
« Reply #15 on: Aug 07, 2011, 05:29 PM »
There's a great image taken looking back towards the Bridge, and into the 'speaker' of the foghorn
I've searched and to no avail - someone else will know who took it!

Here it is, bobso and Rosie :

https://www.theqe2story.com/forum/index.php/topic,1749.msg22187.html#msg22187

Online Isabelle Prondzynski

Re: QE2 Model--Help please
« Reply #16 on: Aug 07, 2011, 06:46 PM »
The first of my pictures shown above by Rosie is of the foghorn as seen from below (you can just make out a tiny bit of the Q of the ship's name!).

The second puts it in context.

The third shows the sheer size of the foghorn in comparison with the crew member (I was focusing on the crew member's activities, hence the foghorn is not complete there -- apologies for that).

Online Isabelle Prondzynski

Re: QE2 Model--Help please
« Reply #17 on: Aug 07, 2011, 09:22 PM »
The size of the foghorn is also very obvious in this group photo :

https://www.theqe2story.com/forum/index.php/topic,1958.msg36611.html#msg36611

cos918

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Re: QE2 Model--Help please
« Reply #18 on: Aug 08, 2011, 06:55 PM »
Hello
The 3 red lights on her mast when lit means restricted manouvering. Are normal on when leaving port or enterning port.
To do these. Cut 6 small lenght of 1 mm fiber optic. put a clean 45 deg cut on one end . get 6 long length and put a clean 45 deg cut on one end clue the 2 ,45deg ends to gether using a clear non fog super glue. drill out the 6 mast light with a 1 mm drill. paint the inside of the mast black this stop light blead. clue in the fiber optics and clue the 2 half of the mast together. on the 6 long length do one cut throug all of them so that the are all at the same length . get a red led . get some heat shrink and slide this ove the led + the 6 fiber optics .

I have light up several models. It take a lot of time an experminting to get the correct effect. the smaller the scale the harde the task. here are some of the models I have done.
Post 69 smit rotherdam
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=847256&page=5
 Celestine
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=817609&page=6

John
Ps thought about making your QE2 sail

Offline Waverley

Re: QE2 Model--Help please
« Reply #19 on: Aug 26, 2011, 05:35 PM »
Hello,   If you go to my Flickr site you will find a short video showing a close up of the port navigation light.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/30875458@N07/sets/72157622691747610/

Hope this helps.
Robert

Offline Alistair

Re: QE2 Model--Help please
« Reply #20 on: Dec 09, 2011, 07:38 AM »
did you ever get to the bottom of the overall colour question for QE2? I wonder if it changed over the years. If the right people (i.e. past crew members) haven't seen your question in the Models section it might be an idea to post someting in the crew area to see if it jogs any neurons there?

Apart form that, how is the model progressing? Will ti be lit up for Xmas?  ;D

Alistair

Offline Twynkle

Re: QE2 Model--Help please
« Reply #21 on: Dec 09, 2011, 07:59 AM »
Hi bobso
Over the years, crew members wore many different coloured uniforms, and this depended on the department they worked in.
Have you looked at rhe Gallery on the main part of the forum,
https://www.theqe2story.com/forum/index.php/topic,59.0.html
as well as the new Gallery - there are lots of photos there, as well as under  QE2 in flickr.com


On the whole - officers wore white overalls in the Engine room and the crew wore blue
The same goes for shirts as well
Away from the engines, all technical crew members wear blue shirts too

Waiters changed jackets over time - and wore white to breakfast and afternoon tea
then black or dark green, with red lapels / cuffs etc later
It was their little sort of 'ties' with the Cunard 'badge that made them look even smarter!
Sommeliers and bar staff wore burgundy jackets
Deck crew - non-technical, wore sweatshirts
Cabin Stewards/ Stewardesses - didn't they wear two shades of grey?
You'll find pics of the Hotel Dept crew in the old brochures

others with better recall than mine will help here too, hopefully!
This above all comes with the caveat 'If I remember rightly'!!
« Last Edit: Dec 09, 2011, 08:14 AM by Twynkle »

bobso

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Re: QE2 Model--Help please
« Reply #22 on: Apr 28, 2012, 07:06 PM »
Here i am again --asking for help from members of the Forum. This time it's about the six Red lights on the mast. I have just watched the video of the QE2 when it left the Clyde for the first time with Prince Charles on board. The Mast does not appear to have the Four Red lights on it then.The GS model represents the ship between 1972 and 1977, and the picture on the box of the model does not show the Red lights either. The numerous fantastic models of the QE2 posted on the Forum by members as far as i can see also do not have the Red mast lights fitted. Does any member know when these mast lights WERE fitted? I  have the Fibre Optic cable of the correct size here at home and have tried the Red fibres to see how they look and they look really good. However--if the model actually is from the 1972--1977--did it have these Red lights fitted at this time?



Offline Andy F

Re: QE2 Model--Help please
« Reply #23 on: Apr 30, 2012, 01:27 AM »
Bob
Can't remember offhand when the 3 pairs of red lights were fitted, though likely to have been sometime early 90s I believe but were not in situ during the period you are modelling.

Rgds
« Last Edit: Apr 30, 2012, 01:36 AM by Andy F »
Start every day with a smile and get it over with

bobso

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Re: QE2 Model--Help please
« Reply #24 on: Apr 30, 2012, 06:05 AM »
Good Morning Andy,Many thanks for your reply to my earlier post. That is a pity as i have the Fibres and the LED's already tested to fit the mast. Now what to do? :-\-- I am tempted to fit them anyway as i think they would make a nice touch to the model when lit :). Will  have to think about this a bit more.

bobso

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Re: QE2 Model--Help please
« Reply #25 on: May 14, 2012, 06:58 AM »
A number of members have asked me how the model of the QE2 is progressing. Here is an "Update"--

The hull is built and EVERY porthole has been drilled out--by HAND--quite a job. Before anyone asks why i did it by hand instead of using a "dremel"--the answer is that if i had used a power drill the chance of it slipping and ruining the job was very real, so i drilled them all out using a "pin vice". Does anyone know just how many portholes there are on the hull of QE2?--answer--A HECK OF A LOT!!

The pictures posted by CAP on 5th August 2011--the last one shows the mast light. This i have now managed to do with Fibre Optic cable. The mast light is in place and it works. :)

The 2 pictures posted by Andy F on the 6th August 2011 show the small light on the funnel,--this i have also managed to do. The light is in place again done with Fibre Optic cable.-, and again--it works. :)

I have been poring through hundreds of pictures and dozens of videos to see where the "Floodlights" that are all over the superstructure are actually placed. Rob's video shows the position of the floodlights that light up the funell--this i have also managed to do. I am using Ultra--ULTRA small SMD--Led's for this job. These Led's are so small but give out a really strong light. I will use them to light up the Bridge as well.

I am needing to see exactly where the floodlights are placed on the top decks. Does any member have an electrical plan of where these floodlights are located?--or even from memory/photo's etc. I REALLY need to see where to fit these small Led's.

The inside of the hull, funnel scoop,top deck superstructure and bow have all been painted black to stop any light from seeping through other than where i want it to shine.

This then is where i am at just now. Any help with the position of the top deck floodlights would be VERY appreciated.

Offline Twynkle

Re: QE2 Model--Help please
« Reply #26 on: May 14, 2012, 08:37 AM »
Hey Bobso

This - what you have done so far, sounds absolutely FANTASTIC!
Well Done to you :)
Especially, if I may say so - because you were the one who said that you hadn't had the opportunity to step on board.
Hope that doesn't sound patronising - it's wholehearted admiration for your perseverance.

Now about the lighting.
Hope too that what follows is accurate and helpful - please shout at me somebody, if I've got it wrong!

Not too sure what you mean by flood-lights, unless she was in port, floodlighting 'to show her off' was only used when she was 'resting' as in staying over night!
https://www.flickr.com/photos/chalto/2424349655/
This photo can be enlarged - it shows exactly how she was lit up at night, I used to walk round and round after dark - and remember this well!
Thanks to chaltco for the photo - this pic is copyrighted.

From memory, I think most of her lamp casings are painted white - and have covering slats over the lights - anyone, any ideas here?

There are big lights still working that light up her funnel, her Mast and to some extent, her after decks as well as the white Bit Behind the Funnel. (We saw them last year as we sailed into Port Rashid!)
I'd guess that these lamps must be somewhere higher than her boat deck. 
Have you got good pics of the funnel Bar at night?

There were big lamps on the foredeck, as well as inside the railing / low bulkhead of the Bit Beneath the Bridge. These were only on when she was in port after dark - and turned off at sailing time.  I think these still light up the forward part of the superstructure as well as the bridge.
I may have pics - and will look as soon as time permits.

Rob was taking photos on board after dark - might his videos / stills help?

There are probably hundred of pics of 'QE2 after dark / at night' on flickr - you probably discovered these ages ago!

There were lights used on NYE at the Party - If you can see where the lighting actually comes from, that will give us a good idea as to where the lamps are situated.

No time now - but I started a topic on Lighting, not sure what's there - it would be good if anyone can add to that, as well as referencing this link here too.

And the new topic for the Calendar competition - this may help you too
Then there are books and books - these also may help.

Hopefully someone can show you a plan of the wiring / lights - however other than going into the ECR, there may be only very few other ways of finding more info....

All the best
Rosie
« Last Edit: May 14, 2012, 08:43 AM by Twynkle »

bobso

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Re: QE2 Model--Help please
« Reply #27 on: May 14, 2012, 08:59 AM »
Thanks Rosie for your reply. I am hoping to see if someone can give me the exact positions of the flood lights/ deck lights that abound on the QE2. Rob's video show the exact position of the funnel floodlights and i have pictures of the Floodlights lighting the bridge area. There are loads of pictures showing the general effect but i need to know where the deck lights are actually placed.

I am enclosing a couple of pictures that will give you all an idea of the size of the ultra small SMD--LED's against the size of my finger, and the size of them as they come in the strip. Bearing in mind that i have to solder the feed wires on to the contacts of the SMD :'(

Offline CAP

Re: QE2 Model--Help please
« Reply #28 on: May 14, 2012, 05:41 PM »
Bobso,

Read with interest your progress on the model.  Hope the great work continues.  I had a bit of a dig around and found these shots I took of QE2 whilst she was alongside in Liverpool for her finall call in 2008.  I thought they maybe useful to you as they show the deck lights illuminated and the rough positioning.  Apologies for the fuzzines... I was aboard one of the Mersey Ferries at the time!

bobso

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Re: QE2 Model--Help please
« Reply #29 on: May 14, 2012, 06:01 PM »
To reply to CAP--Many Many thanks for your kindness in posting the picture of the QE2 lit up. The White Floodlights doted around the deck are going to be a great help as regards positions etc. You will have an idea of the size of the SMD-Led's after looking at the picture of one of them resting on my finger. The lighting of the mast and funnel and forward deck under the bridge are going to be a great help. I am looking at loads of pictures and videos to try and get the positions and the colours of the lights as near correct as possible.
I will be posting more pictures of the build as it progresses. Rob's video of last year in Dubai has been of immense help--the --what looks like Halogen flood lights lighting up the funnel as he climbs up--clearly show the position of the lights. Obviously in the very small scale of the model, multiple floodlights will not be possible. However these small SMD lights are incredibly bright and will light up the funnel well enough.