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Online Isabelle Prondzynski

Re: Guest Chef and his "Queets"
« Reply #30 on: Apr 13, 2010, 07:44 AM »
Slowly returning to the real world... you had me right back on QE2 again, Pat! What a story you tell!!

Looking forward to the next instalment  :D  .

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Re: Guest Chef and his "Queets"
« Reply #31 on: Apr 13, 2010, 10:02 AM »
"if ever there was a Queen on board the Queen it was Elaine."


What a great line!! And soooo very true  she was great....i think she remembered EVERY passenger and every crew member by name....she ran that ship with a rod of iron....thats WHY its was always so special....she was a real nice lady. VERY much missed on board after she retired.....the youngsters that came along after her didn't have a clue......sadly the beginning of the end for traditional cruising as we knew it for so long. 

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« Reply #32 on: Apr 13, 2010, 07:41 PM »
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"if ever there was a Queen on board the Queen it was Elaine."

 
While its wrong to slate any of the staff, l do whole heartedly agree with cruiseprincess about the cruise staff in recent years. Elaine always had a presence about her. Peter Longley l always thought was very good as well along with the late Bob Docherty.

Some of the new younger ones and one in particular l didnt care for and they do love the sound of their own voice !
The link below gives added info on Mr Longley. I know some people didnt care for his very smooth ways, but he was always so professional

http://www.peterlongleybooks.com/index.php?page_id=275
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Re: Guest Chef and his "Queets"
« Reply #33 on: Apr 13, 2010, 07:44 PM »
Pat look forward to hearing more of your onboard tales !!!

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"if ever there was a Queen on board the Queen it was Elaine."
Who hasnt heard the one "QE2, she was launched by the Queen, Named by the Queen and run by..* many many happy people"
* words subsituted on the grounds of decency :-X :-X :-X
From the moment you first glimpsed the Queen,
 you just knew you were in for a very special time ahead.!

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« Reply #34 on: Apr 13, 2010, 08:05 PM »
"if ever there was a Queen on board the Queen it was Elaine."

 VERY much missed on board after she retired. 
We had it on very good authority that Elaine was invited to retire after she brought her aged mother on board for a cruise. Or to put it another way, her contract was not renewed.  It seems she spent more time attending to her (she had dementure, it seems) to the detriment of her job.  This might be a gossip / rumour but the source was plausible and senior.  And yet it is so out of character for Elaine.  Mind you (according to my source) she was past retirement age. 
Can any one verify any of that? 
Sounds a bit like our beloved QE2, doesn't it?  (forced into retirement because management thought she was past it!)

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Re: Guest Chef and his "Queets"
« Reply #35 on: Apr 13, 2010, 08:06 PM »

Who hasnt heard the one "QE2, she was launched by the Queen, Named by the Queen and run by..* many many happy people"
* words subsituted on the grounds of decency :-X :-X :-X

Nothing wrong with that.

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Re: Guest Chef and his "Queets"
« Reply #36 on: Apr 13, 2010, 08:10 PM »

Were the trolleys on the wooden floor?!
(The demonstrations more recently took place in the Grand Lounge - not sure why the change of 'venue'?

Yes they were and it was most unsatisfactory for sight lines.  It moved to Grand Lounge for that and a number of other reasons.  I'll tell why later. 
OK?

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Re: Guest Chef and his "Queets"
« Reply #37 on: Apr 14, 2010, 08:32 PM »
Some of the new younger ones and one in particular l didnt care for and they do love the sound of their own voice !
The link below gives added info on Mr Longley. I know some people didnt care for his very smooth ways, but he was always so professional

Oh Myles I so agree.....

My first impressions of Peter Longley.....he was sooooooooooooo smooth...any smoother and would slide off the dance floor....but what a presence,,,VERY QE2..very polished. they broke the mould when they made him!.He used to walk around the decks whether  north atlantic in winter storms with passengers wrapped up in blankets being served hot bouillon or on a summer voyage to Bermuda.. in his white slacks and blue blazer,  he was always there stopping chatting to passengers asking if they are enjoying their voyage,,,he was sorely missed when he left...as far as I know he went to HAL....I wonder if he is still on the go?
They just don't make' em like that any more do they?
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Re: Guest Chef and his "Queets"
« Reply #38 on: Apr 14, 2010, 09:54 PM »
l remember Peter Longley giving a talk in the midships lobby one day, l was passing through and just stopped, and before l knew it l was engrossed and didnt want to leave, lm sure it was to speak about his paintings. I know absolutely nothing about paintings, but the way he commanded everything. He was a truly a master in action.   And  a joy to listen to. One of those voices that just has to be listened to.   
From the moment you first glimpsed the Queen,
 you just knew you were in for a very special time ahead.!

Pat Curry

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Re: Guest Chef and his "Queets"
« Reply #39 on: Apr 14, 2010, 09:57 PM »

They just don't make' em like that any more do they?
I certainly agree.  Don't you think this is because of the rapid expansion in the cruise market?  
There surely isn't a pool of experienced cruise staff.  In the golden days they worked their way up and eventually got the goal of CD.  Now it's fast track, even on Cunard.

The galley has the same problem.  I remember on one cruise, we ordered up 50 kg of aubergines from the veg store for one menu (as just one example). That's about 50 - 60 aubergines.  My recipe required strips with the skin on and the seed scooped out.  They then needed a light spice marinade and a light fry in one of the production galley's brat pans to be served as close to finish as possible on that day's dinner menu on all grills/restaurants plus the ward room. The 'chef' assigned to this task in the production galley was new on board.  One would expect this task to take about 30 minutes.  He was taking about  3 - 4 minutes per aubergine.  So he would have taken 3 - 4 hours to do it. He would have finished after the meal was being served, and we yet had to cook them.   The 'chef' in question was middle aged and had been in a former job (teacher I think) and had  just retrained in cheffing at a catering school.  He had just gained his QVC, lowest level. Dominique, I and exec chef Karl Wrinkler all joined in and we finished in 10 minutes flat.  

But Karl was outraged.  He didn't explode in the galley, but when dinner service was finished he invited both of us into his office ( a remarkable privilege) and broke out a 'scoop' from his fridge.  (Becks for him and me and wine for Dom). We relished in the relaxation of job done.  He told us his biggest problem was that Cunard hire his galley staff by mostly looking at paper qualifications.  How can office staff know how competent a chef is, groaned Karl.   Being at sea all the time, I can't interview them myself.  So I get stuck with dummies for a four month contract.  It means those who can have to work harder to cover for those who can't.    I asked how many he had.  Several, he replied.  

I learned then that not all ship's chefs are good chefs, even on the QE2.  

We meet Karl on my next Queet ...
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« Reply #40 on: May 03, 2010, 01:50 PM »
Part  6 ~ The Visit: An Empty Vessel
 “Let’s have a drink”, said Sarah.

We had arrived at the gorgeous Chart Room bar.  A barman was at work polishing glasses, but immediately took our order with a big smile and produced it in a trice.

“What do you think of the ship?” asked Sarah. 

“Amazing”, I replied. “I’ll never learn my way around.”

“You will.” she said. I couldn’t tell her that maybe Dominique and I didn’t want to. We both worried that we’d hate the 16 day cruise to come. The ship’s tour had given me a feeling that it was just an enlarged ferry on which we’d be for ever seasick. Up to now I hadn’t seen any passengers and this made it worse. An empty ship is very dull indeed. I assumed the ship was empty and awaiting its new passengers. Queried about this, Sarah replied “well there are several hundred new passengers waiting to board in the lounge, but there are about 100 transits on board on their way to New York (from the Med).  Apart from refit, the ship never shuts down and there are always passengers and working crew on board.

It was about 1.15pm.  Sarah picked up a house phone and dialled four numbers.  After a brief exchange she said “In fact they’re just serving all the on-board passengers lunch in the Caronia. It’s well underway so Chef is on his way here to see you now.“ 

A moment of anticipation tingled down my spine.  I had done my homework.  Exec Chef Karl Wrinkler had been on the ship since 1971 and has risen to the top. He was now Cunard’s senior Exec Chef.  If ever there’s a department which makes or breaks a venue, it’s cooking. Wrinkler oversees a staff of nearly 200 (20% of the crew total).  Catch him in his uniform rather than chef’s whites and he has an impressive three-ring hotel rank, placing him one rank below Hotel Manager, and allocates an annual food-and-beverage budget of more than $18 million.

The average QE 2 cruise serves 9,000 meals a day to more than 2,700 guests and crew and is the world's only food service establishment that serves daily regimens of Russian caviar, New Zealand lamb, Kansas beef and Maine lobster. And here is the man who is responsible for the cuisine of the most famous, most elite ship in the world coming to greet me as his ‘Guest Chef’. 

And there he was, shaking my hand. 

Smiling, friendly, helpful, well frankly wonderful.  “I’m Austrian”, he announced and my wife’s English.  We’ve lived near Southampton for years. I know nothing about curries.  We’ve got over one hundred cooks on the ship, including forty Indians, but none of them specialise in curries. I’ve read your books. The passengers will love what you do.” 

What a welcome! No ego, no resentment, no problems.  That’s Karl.  We spent half an hour going over the details of our work to come on board.  “I can’t take you to the galleys right now ... we’ve got a Southampton public health inspector looking into every drain, cupboard, shelf and space there, and you’re not properly dressed.  As soon as your cruise in October sails, put on your whites, ring this number (the chef’s office) and they’ll send someone to bring you there. Just one thing, I’ll be on leave then, but the No 2 Exec Chef will be expecting you.  If you want lunch in the Caronia today I’ll fix it; you’ve still got time.

Who could say no?  Remember, I never say no, and on this occasion, me and Dominique certainly didn’t and even ‘allo Sarah’ admitted lunch on board was a rare privilege for her. We enjoyed a perfectly served, superb three course complimentary luncheon, enhanced with a good bottle of wine, courtesy chef’s office.  I later learned that the Caronia had the most comfortable seating of all the restaurants.

We said good bye to Sarah back in the lounge.

We weighed up the pros and cos:
Cons: No pay and an big extras bar bill. Big ship. Would we find it boring?  Was she just a big ferry?  Was it Butlins at sea? Was she just an empty vessel? What if we were  wretchedly seasick? How embarrassing that would be?  She certainly wasn’t the brash new boy (or is that girl) on the block, she was if anything ‘shabby chic’ ...

Pros:  ... but that gave her style and that suited us just fine. We love dressing up.  Rue the day the necktie and DJ go the way of white tie and tails. What fun, lot's of pretty new frocks to buy (said Dominique - maybe that should go in the cons section(!).  Besides, what an experience to sail on her;  no other ship has, and maybe never will have the kudos of the QE2.  And even more remarkable to work on her.  Besides, we’d not been to the Caribbean.

If there had ever been any doubt about our decision, above all, it was the attitude of all the crew we’d met which impressed us most.   We knew we could do the job Cunard asked of us, but not if the crew were against us.  Everyone one had a welcoming can-do-smile, and seemed only too willing to help us.  Would this be the case on the cruise?  As for seasickness, we’d just have to cope whatever the weather?  Would we?

We'd find out soon enough ...


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« Reply #41 on: May 03, 2010, 02:11 PM »
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Pat - These would all be huge as well, if I could make them bigger!

THANK YOU!
This and your other posts, including the one on Lecturing, describe exactly how the spirit of QE2 was when she was in Service, and thankfully still lives on today - right here!
https://www.theqe2story.com/forum/index.php/topic,1925.msg21248.html#msg21248
Rosie.
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Re: Guest Chef and his "Queets"
« Reply #42 on: May 03, 2010, 08:42 PM »
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Pat - These would all be huge as well, if I could make them bigger!

Wow Rosie.  I'm overwhelmed and delighted I've pleased you.  I'd return them  :) with a hug sign (dozens of them) but there isn't one.  

I must say writing and remembering it all brings a lump to my throat and a tear to my eyes.  I've had some amazing experiences in my life, with plenty of travel as part of the job.  And so has Dominique since she has been working with me since 1986.  One year we were 122 days away from home working, inc 42 days on the ship.  Makes you appreciate home, and hate some hotels, but we never said that about the ship.

Both us us agree the QE2 was an unsurpassable experience.  

l feel it is a duty to try to recall it as it was, and pass it on to others like you who enjoy and appreciate it.  I have never written a detailed diary, nor did I take many photos on board, more's the pity.  But I have a really good memory, and coupled with Dom's I can spout on for many more episodes.

Wait till you hear what the galley had to say about Gary Rhodes!   :o



« Last Edit: May 07, 2010, 12:20 PM by Isabelle Prondzynski »

Online Isabelle Prondzynski

Re: Guest Chef and his "Queets"
« Reply #43 on: May 07, 2010, 12:28 PM »
Thank you again, Pat! Your story takes me right back on board, even the smell is there, and I can hear you talking, as well as hearing some of the background sounds  :D .

It is a good thing perhaps that you write it up slowly, so that we have plenty to look forward to!

I never got a photo of Karl Winkler, but here is one of his successors, Bernhard Stumpfel, another Austrian :

https://www.flickr.com/photos/prondis_in_kenya/3414311904/



I believe the galleys had quite a high proportion of Austrians and valued their skills and commitment.

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Re: Guest Chef and his "Queets"
« Reply #44 on: May 11, 2010, 03:28 PM »
I've just been catching up with my reading of this topic - absolutely brilliant stuff and please, please keep it coming!  Some of the best-written memories we've seen on the forum so far.  You could write a book! 

How did you keep your memories - did you have a daily diary?  Or do you just have an exceptional memory!?

On our Aug-2008 Med cruise, the chef demo in the GL was done by a chef from the QG... I was delighted when she started speaking, because she was very definitely from the West of Scotland, like both myself and QE2!
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