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Offline John Grace

".....We're in danger of losing the ship"
« on: May 07, 2015, 12:53 AM »
"...We're in danger of loosing the ship" ... those were the words spoken over the phone by the Chief Engineer John Grant (hope I've got the name right) to the master on the bridge while on a North Atlantic crossing late in the year 1980 or 1981 ( can't remember which year exactly). The events that caused the chief to advise the master to do this started to unfold late in the afternoon while shelled creatures of all varieties were being removed from the tubes of the condenser for the No 2 TG. Two days out of Southampton on her way to NY a steady loss of vacuum on the condensers was an indicator that the tubes inside were getting blocked, having just spent a week alongside in Southampton opposite the power station where there was warm water it was reasoned that the shelled things had crawled inside the ships cooling seawater intakes. As the power plant and operation of the ship couldn't tolerate a loss of vacuum in the generator turbine system the little nasties had to be cleaned out. The chosen method for cleaning was to open up the condenser to expose the tubes, to do this the countless bolts around the very large door were removed and the door swung away on the overhead rail it was attached to - the door had a significant weight and bulk that warranted it being on a rail.... anyway once the door was swung away someone cracked the overboard seawater valve and in doing so a controlled inrush of the North Atlantic swept in and removed the obstructions. Two of the TG condensers had already been cleaned in this way with no problems, the doors were bolted up and the TG's brought back on line.

On this day with the condenser door swung clear, as before, the instruction to "crack the valve" was given. Sadly the valve collapsed and to everyone's horror vast uncontrolled volumes  of the North Atlantic started to gush from the tubes and flood the bilges. Those present started to push the door closed, but, the forces against the push were considerable and the door could not be closed. The word went out for help and those in the Wardroom came to the engine room (and this is when the Chief appeared) to assist. As a note the temperature of the seawater that was soaking everyone was in the low 50's... it was cold. Eventually the door was secured but not before the bilges had filled to above the plates and the Chief had asked the master to move the ship out of the weather adding "That if you don't were in great danger of loosing the ship"... I was in the control room when the call was made so I can vouch for the wording.

Towards the end of the incident and on the lighter side one of the housekeeping officers called "Flash" turned up in the control room with a crew in wellington boots and vacuums "to clean up the flood"... it made the engineers laugh if nothing else.

The offending valve was eventually removed and brought and placed on the Wardroom bar with a note "There but for the Grace of God go I".... the valve and the note lasted no more than an hour as when the Chief got word of it he stormed into the Wardroom and removed it.

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« Last Edit: May 07, 2015, 10:11 AM by Isabelle Prondzynski »

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Re: ".....We're in danger of loosing the ship"
« Reply #1 on: May 07, 2015, 10:11 AM »
Amazing story, and I love the detail with which you describe it -- it had me on tenterhooks! Fortunately, it had a happy ending.

And yes, your conclusion was exactly what went through my mind as I read... how often might I have sat at my table, enjoying a delicious morsel of food, or taking a nap in my cabin, when teams of crew members might have been dealing with a serious crisis...

Had you not been able to shut that heavy door, I suppose QE2 could have been in danger of sinking?

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Re: ".....We're in danger of losing the ship"
« Reply #2 on: May 07, 2015, 10:16 AM »
John or anyone else in the know -- do you think we could find the exact date for this event? It would be great to be able to add it to the QE2 timeline.

Offline John Grace

Re: ".....We're in danger of losing the ship"
« Reply #3 on: May 07, 2015, 11:10 AM »
Isabelle.... having stretched my brain I believe this incident happened in late November 1981 after the wetdock in Southampton

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Re: ".....We're in danger of losing the ship"
« Reply #4 on: May 07, 2015, 02:08 PM »
Thanks, John, for this commentary.  It must have been a very scary and stressful sequence of events.  I appreciate the detail in explaining the situation to us.
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« Reply #5 on: May 07, 2015, 05:58 PM »
Would have to agree with John, around 81.
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Re: ".....We're in danger of losing the ship"
« Reply #6 on: May 07, 2015, 06:57 PM »
I love stories like this, alarming as they are!

OK so... what I want to know... what if the inflow of water had continued unabated?

What I want you to tell me, is that a watertight compartment would have completely flooded, but nobody would have died, and the ship would have been able to float indefinitely with emergency power while someone came to help!

But is that what would have happened, ultimately?
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Re: ".....We're in danger of losing the ship"
« Reply #7 on: May 07, 2015, 06:59 PM »
What a great and interesting recollection of the event John, I can just imagine the passengers dining, dancing and chatting away as a scene from a movie like the Poseidon Adventure ensues bellow! Interesting to read that the Chief engineer advised to captain to "move out of the weather", from your memory do you know if QE2 was delayed arriving in New York ?
« Last Edit: May 07, 2015, 07:02 PM by Edwin B »

Offline John Grace

Re: ".....We're in danger of losing the ship"
« Reply #8 on: May 07, 2015, 08:53 PM »
The ship was not delayed getting into NY.... the Chief needed to make the Master aware of the dangers and request he move the ship out of the weather because initially he didn't want to alter course...at the time we maintained our standard 30 knot dash.

If we hadn't managed to get a grasp of the situation the valve of last resort - the main overside valve for the cooling water system for the TG's could have been closed - but, in doing that we would have blacked the ship out and then I'm not sure we would have had the ability to run the main bilge pump to pump out the bilges. I can't remember the power configuration exactly.. I seem to recall the pump in question wasn't on the emergency power.

As Rod remembers we were taking on water very fast and it was only a matter of about ten minutes before the water was coming above the plates... and it was damn cold. In pushing the door against the water it redirected the water into long arc from around the side... great plumes of frigid North Atlantic sprayed everywhere and froze anyone it caught... eventually the door was pushed to a position to get a series of "G" clamps on.. these were strenuously wound in to the point where bolts could be used to draw the door closed. The Chief was pushing with the rest of us, at one point I was to his left.. he was along one edge and one of the jets of water coming from edge hit him in the face and sent his glasses flying into the bilges, a mechanic seeing this let out a sudden burst of laughter... the Chief scowled, was not amused and then sent the mechanic into the bilges (full of water) to grope around for his glasses....