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Online Michael Gallagher

QE2: The Bannenberg Rooms
« on: Feb 06, 2010, 02:01 PM »
After the original One Deck Suites, I don't think you could beat the rooms designed by Jon Bannenberg - the original First Class Cabins.

Here they are looking splendid in 2008....
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Online Isabelle Prondzynski

Re: The Bannenberg Rooms
« Reply #1 on: Feb 06, 2010, 06:28 PM »
We've had the pleasure of staying in these several times -- and they are just lovely comfortable cabins. If I had to choose the favourite room I had ever slept in, particularly if home doesn't count, it would be one of these!

I loved the use of wood, and the beautifully designed and executed furniture -- all those details... The wooden doors that could be shut between the bedroom and the wee hall, and opened in such a way that one might never have spotted them at all... the rounded corners within the drawers... the interconnecting doors to the neighbouring cabins... and much more.

For someone like me, who only knew QE2 in her latest guise, these cabins are instantly recognisable even on the earliest photos. I wonder how many permutations of soft furnishings they went through? I really liked the style of furnishings used in the 2000s, but imagine that these cabins were equally elegant and comfortable in earlier versions.

Online Michael Gallagher

Re: The Bannenberg Rooms
« Reply #2 on: Feb 06, 2010, 06:37 PM »
Door open and door closed....

Online Michael Gallagher

Re: The Bannenberg Rooms
« Reply #3 on: Feb 06, 2010, 06:39 PM »
Note from the Forum Administrator - this text below may not be used outwith this forum without permission.

And a brief history on design and decor of these rooms:

The layouts for QE2’s original First Class cabins, with the exception of the suites on One and Two Decks, were developed by Cunard naval architects who probably used Caronia (1949) as their principal inspiration for the cabin designs. Cabins on board QE2 were remarkably standardized considering British shipbuilding practices of the time which generally stressed a more tailormade approach – none more so in the layouts devised for these standard first class cabins. Indeed it was this design of Caronia’s cabins which became the prototype for a widely replicated first-class adaptation on board QE2 20 years later.

These rooms were arranged in mirrored pairs or near-identical layout and access to each pair of rooms was by way of doors facing each other across the ends of short beamwise alleyway. These semi-private passages, extending from the main corridors past the cabin bathrooms, allowed each pair of rooms to be combined by use of a third door at the secondary passage’s head. Additional connecting doors in the cabins themselves allowed greater numbers of rooms to be likewise joined. The comfort of side-by-side beds and generously upholstered easy chairs, convenience of abundant wardrobe and drawer space and luxury of spacious en-suite bathrooms with full-sized bathtubs, were ideally suited for long-duration worldwide voyages. Typically, each room would be nine-foot in diameter which seems small but most rooms could interconnect to form suites in accordance with the planning policy for the ship.

Designers for the cabins were appointed at a later stage during the building but the actual layouts of the rooms reflected many practical ideas and layouts done by the original design team and Lady Tweedsmuir, who was appointed as Cunard’s first lady director in 1965.

As on the original Queens, the dressing table, or writing desk, was located as a full-width fitment between the outer walls portholes rather than against the opposite wall to the foot of the beds as was more conventional. The bedroom area could be sealed off from the bathroom and wardrobe area as well as entrance by another door. The beds themselves were placed in the conventional head-on manner (as found on Queen Mary and Queen Elizabeth) which meant they were unable to be used as sofas by day but made for greatest comfort while at sea. No double beds were placed on board – if any passenger wanted a double then the ‘Continental style’ of putting two single beds together was used.

Australian designer Jon Bannenberg was given the job of decorating these First Class cabins which were located midships on One, Two and Three Decks. He selected four different colour schemes (red, orange, pale blue and white and yellow ochre) and built-in furniture in one of three wood vaneers including rosewood, ash and cedar which was also used extensively on the walls. One scheme consisted of rosewood paneling, crushed raspberry bedspread and curtains, oatmeal coloured panels and white-coloured carpet with a thin diagonal scarlet stripe.

Another scheme featured a gold carpet, a narrow brown and black striped curtain and wall paneling, bright grass green chairs and an elegant white bed cove. A third variation had oatmeal panelling and curtains, and a vivid bedspread and chairs. The tops to the fixed furniture was in white Formica with a curved edge and all drawers had cut-out panels for handles. A free-standing leather-framed mirror on the dressing table had a fluorescent strip light concealed behind, and there was a reading lamp in aluminium above each bed.

All cabins were furnished with Hille Nimbus chairs and Arkana tables and stools. The coved ceiling with recessed down lighters was a fairly common feature throughout the ship.

As in all cabins there was air-conditioning, a six-channel radio and telephone and a lighting console plus call buttons (red for a steward to attend / green for a stewardess) for service.

Bathrooms had Modric fittings designed by Alan Tyw for G & S. Allgood in conjunction with Dennis Lennon. The 300 baths were Perspex – that material having proved itself worthy over a 10-year trial on Sylvania plus they saved about 41 tons in weight.

Over the years these cabins were refurbished in a variety of schemes as QE2 underwent regular changes and refitting:

Re-Engining

All first class staterooms (grades AA - H Doubles and UA - VC Singles) were equipped with a video recorder and personal safe for passenger valuables. (Many cabins within these grades were remodelled).

1992

The introduction of the new Princess Grill II necessitated the introduction of a new grade of stateroom (D2) to provide its clientele.

• 48 F graded rooms on Three Deck were upgraded to a new D2 grade standard with a décor of mauves and pale blues, similar to that found on the new Grill itself. New furniture was placed, new bathroom décor provided and all soft furnishings (carpets, curtains, bedspreads) were replaced. New installations included headboards for the beds, video recorders and electronic digital safes.

• The existing D grade became D1 grade with 4 E graded rooms on Two Deck being upgraded to D1 standard.
Passengers in either D1 or D2 were given the option of choosing which Princess Grill to dine in.

1994

The cabins themselves were redecorated and had new chairs installed while bathrooms in most were completely renewed.

1996

The new cabin grade of P3 was introduced in order to allow a more attractive lead-in price for the Princess and Britannia Grills.

1999 onwards

In the 1999 refit these cabins were redone in either burgundy (One and Two Decks) or blue (Three Deck) with the refurbishment including new carpets, curtains, bedspreads, valances and wall fabrics while all existing furniture was re-covered.
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Re: The Bannenberg Rooms
« Reply #4 on: Feb 06, 2010, 10:42 PM »
Michael as ever your in-depth knowledge and love of all things is second to none, thanks for sharing.

On a slightly different tak, if supplied with a cabin number would you be able to tell who was the original designer?

John

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« Reply #5 on: Feb 06, 2010, 10:47 PM »
Jon Bannenberg went on to design yachts, big yachts, for the rich and famous, many would argue benefitting from his exposure as a designer on QE2.  He focused mainly on exteriors, offering very cutting edge styling for the times, setting the standard for today's mega vachts.  Famous yachts included the 282' "Nabila," which was built for Adnan Khashoggi, and ended up as the Trump Princess for awhile.  Jon was hired to design another little boat for Malcolm Forbes, which has become famous as well, the 151' "Highlander."
http://www.forbeshighlander.com/history.html
You have to love those tartan carpets.  Sadly, Jon died in 2002 of a brain tumor.  Here is an article briefly outlining his career.  http://boatline.com.ua/en/architector/architector/6
"There will never be another one like her" QE2's last Master Ian McNaught
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Online Isabelle Prondzynski

Re: The Bannenberg Rooms
« Reply #6 on: Feb 06, 2010, 11:05 PM »
Once again, Michael, I stand in awe of your love and knowledge, and the research over the years that went into making all this available to us...

I look forward to reading your own multi-volume book... this knowledge is very precious!

As for the wooden furniture, what I loved was that this same design was used throughout the ship. When I stayed in a Mauretania cabin in 2008, the furniture was the very same style as that of the Princess Grill cabins, just slightly adapted to the shape of the space available, and with an additional wardrobe, as there was no walk-in dressing room.

If I understand you correctly, it was possible originally (and perhaps even towards the end) to close off those mini passages from the main alleyway, if one had booked two adjoining cabins, e.g. 2042 and 2044, so that the mini passage could be part of a suite sleeping several passengers? Ingenious!

Online Michael Gallagher

Re: The Bannenberg Rooms
« Reply #7 on: Feb 06, 2010, 11:10 PM »
Isabelle

You certainly could close those doors and make two cabins one. And what I miss more than anything nowadays is a proper cabin key and the fact that the Daily Programme or other 'post' could be pushed under the door. I hate having to open the door and pop your head out to see if you've had anything delivered!

Michael

Online Michael Gallagher

Re: The Bannenberg Rooms
« Reply #8 on: Feb 06, 2010, 11:12 PM »
John

As for identifying which designer did what...

One Deck Suites: Dennis Lennon & Partners and Gaby Schreiber.
Two Deck Suites: Stefan Buzas & Alan Irvine and Gaby Schreiber.
First Class Cabins: Jon Bannenberg
Tourist Class Cabins: Dennis Lennon & Partners

So it would be fairly (!) easy to identify and I have a list of who did which suite room.

Michael

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« Reply #9 on: Feb 06, 2010, 11:19 PM »
John

As for identifying which designer did what...

One Deck Suites: Dennis Lennon & Partners and Gaby Schreiber.
Two Deck Suites: Stefan Buzas & Alan Irvine and Gaby Schreiber.
First Class Cabins: Jon Bannenberg
Tourist Class Cabins: Dennis Lennon & Partners

So it would be fairly (!) easy to identify and I have a list of who did which suite room.

Michael

Many thanks I think my wife and I stayed in 2069 on our Cristmas mini cuirse in 2002 but I'll need to check as 2071 is now ringing a bell in my brain !!

And what I miss more than anything nowadays is a proper cabin key and the fact that the Daily Programme or other 'post' could be pushed under the door. I hate having to open the door and pop your head out to see if you've had anything delivered!

I totally agree, where is the fun /luxury in having to open your door to find out what's going on!

john
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Offline Twynkle

Re: The Bannenberg Rooms
« Reply #10 on: Feb 06, 2010, 11:25 PM »
I agree - to find 'anything' else - in an envelope, properly addressed,
as well as the Daily programme,
as well as the ships version of the UK newspaper, all under the door
 - this was doing things in style!
To know that the neighbours hadn't had the chance to read your personal stuff was 'pretty damn good'!
To wake-up on QE2 was perfect.  

Thank you - your descriptions of all the accommodation is keeping us very happy!
And importantly,  keeping our memories of QE2 well alive.
It's at times like this, I feel very fortunate indeed.

Online Isabelle Prondzynski

Re: The Bannenberg Rooms
« Reply #11 on: Feb 06, 2010, 11:30 PM »
And what I miss more than anything nowadays is a proper cabin key and the fact that the Daily Programme or other 'post' could be pushed under the door. I hate having to open the door and pop your head out to see if you've had anything delivered!


What terrible news about the way things are going! I often turned on the light at night to read the latest news that had arrived -- would certainly never have opened the door to check  :o  !

And I also liked the little strip of light entering the cabin through that slit under the door, showing whether anything new had come! In an inside cabin, that would be the only light available at night time... unless of course one switched on the much stronger electric light inside...

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« Reply #12 on: Feb 06, 2010, 11:32 PM »


Thank you - your descriptions of all the accommodation is keeping us very happy!
And importantly,  keeping our memories of QE2 well alive.
It's at times like this, I feel very fortunate indeed.

I'll second that! I've not been able to get on much for the last week or so due to work commitments and a very demanding 2 year old's birthday party last weekend!  It's great to be back and reading all the stuff I've missed.

john

Online Michael Gallagher

Re: The Bannenberg Rooms
« Reply #13 on: Feb 06, 2010, 11:39 PM »
The strip of light under the door was somehow reassuring!

And 2069 and 2071 were Stefan Buzas and Alan Irvine designs John!

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« Reply #14 on: Feb 06, 2010, 11:43 PM »
Thanks Michael, I'll need to delve into the loft tomorrow and find the baggage label to confirm - amazing that I can't remember the cabin number from my engagement trip 8 years ago. 

But, I the cabin number from my round trip TA 18 years ago in 1992 is still imprinted on my brain - 4156, maybe that's because it was my first voyage on the QE2, who knows!

jdl